The Arkham Joker was re-moddled to match Epcar's face model, it shares the same universe as Arkham because of Scarecrow, Killer Croc, The Penguin, Two-Face and The Riddlers apperances in game and the Arkham City skin packs and if you buy joker card on the IOS it will give you Arkham Harley. It shares the fact Arkham City Batman, Harley and Catwoman were voiced by their respected voice actors/actresses from City back. Kevin Conroy, Tara Strong and Grey DeLisle. It has been established that Injustice does share the same universe as Arkham City.
that as well and shame though but on saying that his voice would have suited The Arkham City pack but on saying that his voice wouldn't suit this joker so I am glad they got Richard Epcar back as he suits the role for this game and better then his MK VS DC Joker.
220.127.116.11 wrote: Explain then, Meme99, how there are two Jokers. The Injustice Joker is a very different character when compared to Arkham Joker.
However, the appearance of this character as well as the others changes over time, as does their voice. For example, Batman and Joker changed their appearances from Arkham Origins to Arkham Asylum, as Batman upgraded his armor and Joker just changed his style, and the same goes for the voices. When I placed the images of the characters in an order (Origins, Injustice, Asylum) next to each other on photoviewer, it was clearly an "evoloution" in style and age. So, the Arkham City skins represent the characters when they are somewhat older, and the Joker's actions are different because they are always unpredictable, as he is an insane killer with no rhyme or reason, and though he creates plans none of them are alike. Furthermore, the voice is different because he is younger. Lastly, the other characters in the asylum have no need to change, Croc is just wearing his prison sweats, and he clearly has no reason to change them, Penguin looks consistently the same in style through Origins (minus glass in eye), Injustice and City, there is not much to change about Two face, Riddler is a man of his own style, and Scarecrow is just out their, and probably has not bothered to change is clothes for a long time.
Plus Kevin Conroy returned as Batman, Troy Baker returned as Nightwing ((Grayson), he will voice him in AO Online), Tara Srong returned as Harley Quinn, Grey Delisle returned as Catwoman, Fred Tacistore returned as Bane (I think, but he won't for origins anyway) and Grundy (Everytime grundy dies, he comes back larger and stronger, so he probably died a few times between Injustice and City) and I'm almost positive that Deathstroke is the same as in Origins. Plus Deadshot's model in Stryker's Island is his normal assassin cotume, but he had to scrounge up a makeshift one in City.
It didn't and Solomon Grundy is set to appear in Arkham Origins Blackgate (which takes place after Origins and before Asylum) so that technically over-rules your claim that Batman first meets Grundy in Arkham City.
Oh. I thought that's when he first met him... I'm not really following news abour Blackgate, so I didn't know he was set to appear. I just kinda don't like the thought of Injustice and the Arkham Series being in the same universe anyway...
Caf772000 wrote: No, no that's my opinion. I don't care wether you have evidence or not, in my mind they'll always be seperate.
So in a way your saying they are stand alone sequels? Totally different in atmosphere but cannonical events carry through. Like the Texas Chainsaw or Evil Dead movies. I don't know, but I personally believe they are the same, and at least your not trying to spread your thoughts forcefully and de-bunk ours, so thanks.
Caf772000 wrote: But there is a slight flaw in that theory. The first time Batman met Grundy was in Arkham City so if Injustice was before that, then that can't be.
Also, even if that were the case Batman never mentioned, fought, or interacted in any other way with Grundy. That was Insurgency Batman, who could hace first encountered him after the timeline was altered.
Although you may believe that they are not the same, there are no unresolvable contradictions, so as the you may not believe they are the same you can not support this. You can believe what you do if you think it has a lack of evidence, however unless you can prove us wrong it could be either way, although I feel it is signifigantly connected.